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Apr 18, 2008 00:44

(L) China and other nationalistic Net notions

Posted by RickM
Yesterday I opened my MSN messenger (technically my Adium client which I use for MSN IM) to find that the majority of my Chinese friends were all showing "(L)China" as a prefix before their names. Using the (L) will display a little heart on screen, thus showing love to China. While showing support for your country is all well and good, it does make me somewhat nervous that the peaks of Chinese Internet nationalism always seem to center around hatred/anger toward another countries.

Last time it was Japan.

This time, it's France.

In the past few days, Chinese SMS alerts have been on overdrive, calling for a boycott of "all French, English, and American products and services until those westerners stop spreading their hatred of Chinese people and learn to respect the sovereign rights of China over Tibetan province". Gaze over at Commiepod which points out that this number is the same government number that he often receives official notices from.

The boycott I'm hearing the loudest rumblings about though, is that of the French supermarket chain Carrefour. Gatherings outside Carrefour will likely be tolerated despite the fact that the Chinese Government almost never allows organized protests. That is, except when they agree with the cause, as was the case with the 2005 anti-Japan protests.

Of course, none of this is gonna be good for its PR campaign...

Some Netizens are going so far as to boycott all French goods entirely. Global Voices has translated a bunch of Chinese pages, and here's an excerpt of the SMS message which elaborates on the motivation behind the Carrefour boycott:

The Olympic torch relay that just ended in Paris is not as peaceful as
most of Chinese know about. Let's see what French and its Government
have done when Chinese carried the torch, a symbol of peace and
friendship into their territory.

1. Before the relay, a French TV station called on people to protest on
the streets for the reason that they "don't want Chinese flags flaunting all
over".
2. The torch was forced to extinguish for four times under the violent disruptions of Tibet separatists.
3. The French police in charge of security simply stood by to see the
separatists snatching the torch, and striking the disabled torch
carrier.
4. At where the torch went by, hordes of French waved the flag of
separatists, clamoring "Free Tibet", "Shame on China", to protest
against China.
5. Groups of young men even scrambled over the Chinese students'
five-star flags and tore them up, two sides in conflict.
6. When the sacred fire passed by the City Hall of Paris, the banners
and slogans of pro-Tibet independence were hung out and all the
alderman put on the pro-separatism badges, a behavior that made the
planned ceremony there cancelled.
7. The major media in France reviewed the torch relay with such
headlines—-Fiasco in Paris (Figaro) and A Slap on China


Carrefour employs a ton of Chinese people and carries mostly Chinese-produced goods. I can't help but wonder exactly who a boycott like this would hurt most. Online polls are springing up as well, where Chinese people can show their patriotism. I particularly enjoyed this MSN China poll which posed the question: "Do you support the Beijing Olympics?"

Possible answers? A. Strongly yes B. Yes C. I don't know.

I'm not kidding, there really isn't a "NO" option. A bit of comic relief is necessary in times like these, I suppose...

And then there's this online petition against distorted foreign media reports on Tibet. I mean, I'll be the first to admit the Western media is far from perfect. But I believe it was Confucius (or possibly Jesus, I'll have to look it up) who once said: "Let he who is without a biased state media cast the first stone."

Some famous Chinese bloggers are having their say as well, showing that while the Internet climate is extremely nationalist, that there are other points of view which contrast with the common opinion (Surprise, MSN!).

The best boycott is to make yourself really awesome (牛逼); if you're not cool, other people will pick on you. If you boycott someone when they pick on you, you're just pretending to be be great. If you like it, maybe you should go to North Korea where they have only north Korean and Chinese goods.

Using your purchasing habits to demonstrate whether or not you are patriotic, this is really "universal values" with Chinese characteristics.

When you boycott, you are just showing that your target is much stronger than you, that your target is already mixed up in your life. So what the hell have you been doing before now?

I just happen to have some discount coupons for Carrefour. I guess if I go these days, there won't be long queues.

If there is anything I am going to boycott, it's all these stupid idiots [arranging boycotts].
--Wang Xiao Feng, translated by Danwei


Now, with all this garbage flying around, wouldn't this make the case for an Olympic boycott even stronger? Maybe... But consider this piece, by Fareed Zakaria (h/t to CDT):

In these circumstances, a boycott of the Olympics would have precisely the opposite effect that is intended. The regime in Beijing would become only more defensive and stubborn. The Chinese people would rally around the flag and see the West as trying to humiliate China in its first international moment of glory. (There are many suspicions that the United States cannot abide the prospect of a rising China.) For most Chinese, the Games are about the world giving China respect, rather than bolstering the Communist Party's legitimacy.


That said, I'll likely not be posting (L)China on my MSN, but rather something like (L)Everyone--or better yet, as my good friend Tom has done, (L) Pizza & Beer.



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CMiner says...
Respect is earned.

If you want people to respect you, you must first act respectable. It does not work the other way around.

Tibet is not the only issue for which the Chinese government (Note that I said the Government, not the people in general) is looked down on.

Oppression of freedom of speech, media, religion, politics, etc, all contribute to the poor world view of the Chinese government.

I agree that the Olympics, especially the running of the torch, are very poor choices of place and time for people to protest at. The Olympics have nothing to do with the Chinese government.

However, considering the government's dictatorial stance, I don't think that China should have been let to host the Olympics in the first place.

 
 
qwert says...
A government is mainly accountable to its own people. No matter what the CCP has done in its early years of administration, it has at least earned itself respect and approval from a majority of the Chinese people, with their good work in hugely improving the livelihood of all Chinese in the past 30 years. It is none of you White Westerners' business to tell us what kind of government we deserve.

And please differentiate between Western world's view and "world view". The Chinese government perhaps enjoys better "world view" than the American government in the world, especially in third world countries. Or maybe perhaps you White Caucasians don't think those third world views count because they are all ruled under "dictatorships" which are political systems simply different from yours, or simply too stupid to think for themselves.

I don't see why a government need to earn respect from non-citizens for what they have done domestically. It is really the American, and most European governments, which need to earn respect from rest of the world for all the arocities they are committing around the world. The Iraq War alone has caused more than a million deaths in that country, a number far exceeds any estimates on the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam Hussein. And that doesn't get much mention in the free Western media at all. Please stop pretend to occupy a moral high ground. That can only be interpreted by the Chinese, and many others around the world, to be straightforward racism.

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dezza says...
I was talking to a reporter for a respected newspaper in China and she said something to me that was really interesting. She said that although China's internet users number around 300 million, there are still 1 billion+ Chinese who aren't netizens. The western media and blogosphere seems to focus on these (often irrational) netizens perhaps because it is easier to gauge the feelings and mood of the Chinese people but in reality they are only a minority and do not represent the feelings of the majority of Chinese. .the average Chinese person is more worried about inflation, joblessness, and the environment to dilly dally about boycotts of L'oreal and Louis Vitton.

If Carrefour has a big sale on peanut oil, pork or cabbage tomorrow, i'm thinking there would still be a big stampede to get some..French support of the Tibetans be damned.

While the typical Chinese netizen is between the ages of 18-40, are part of the 'little emperor' generation and have not suffered through the pain and suffering of the great leap forward, cultural revolution, etc so they have only seen the economic development in the past 30 years, thus their idea of their government is skewed anyway. Propaganda and nationalist education can do wonders.

 
 
CMiner says...
Whoever said that I was Western, American, or even White for that matter?

And just as a side note, American media -does- cover the large death toll in Iraq, extensively.

No one here has denied that the American government has its issues too. I have nothing to do with the American government's actions. The morals of the people in the American government are -not- the same as mine. But this is not the issue at hand.

I do not criticize the Chinese government because it is different. There's nothing wrong with different.

I have absolutely no doubt that the Chinese people are capable of thinking for themselves, and forming intelligent opinions.

But that is exactly my point. The Chinese government does not let its citizens form their own opinions. It does not let any opinions other than its own be spread. That's why there is such a huge internet censorship board devoted to controlling the internet in China, and removing anything the might go against the state's view. That's why media outlets have to register with the state and are shut down if they post things that oppose, or are even just differ from, the government's view. That's why Google and Yahoo and other search engines have to heavily censor their results if someone runs a search on sensitive political keywords, like democracy, Tibet, Tienanmen Square, Burma, etc. That's why many people in China have been arrested for expressing differing opinions, online or offline.

Why doesn't the Chinese government believe its citizens capable of forming their own opinions?



Also, on the subject of the French boycott, America did the same thing a few years ago. When France did not support the Iraq situation, people started boycotting most anything perceived to do with France, even to the extent of renaming French fries and french toast "Freedom" fries and "Freedom" toast, respectively. It was ridiculous, of course, and did nothing to change France's viewpoint.

 
 
willmoss says...
I really can't think of a worse time for a flareup of angry nationalism, regardless of what kind of criticism China has received, than four months before the Games. The messages it sends to audiences overseas are, "things could get ugly here in August" and, "we are totally incapable of taking criticism". In a broader sense, neither of these things may be true, but that doesn't change the perception created.

So, the question is, why undertake the world's largest PR exercise and then undermine whatever value it has? I suppose some of this has to do with the imperative to maintain domestic legitimacy. But the net result will be a Western world that is more fearful and suspicious of China, rather than one that better appreciates all the things that are admirable about it.

 
 
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